Did Nickelback steal “Rockstar?” You decide.

Nickelback is being sued by a band called Snowblind Revival. No one has ever heard of them up until now. They claim their song “Rock Star” was lifted by Nickelback. The Canadian band that everyone loves to hate says, “nah.” Snowblind songwriter Kirk Johnston claims Nickelback had access to their demo which was submitted to Roadrunner Records in 2001. Nickelback’s hit dropped in 2005. They also claim that the two songs sound nothing alike. There are no similar lyrics, and the melodies are different- it’s just the name of the song. Checkmate. Decide for yourself though…

Chicago’s got some crazy things on Craigslist…

The amount of ridiculousness on Craigslist is never ending… LIKE-

REAL dentures- top and bottom: $50

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/hab/d/chicago-real-dentures-false-teeth-top/7375343161.html

A Queen size waterbed! Queen size WaterBed. Semi Motionless. Good condition, no leaks. Just needs a headboard if you wanted one: $50

https://racine.craigslist.org/fuo/d/pleasant-prairie-water-bed-queen-size/7372943798.html

GIANT taxidermy Panda: $650

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/clt/d/algonquin-giant-panda-taxidermy/7369390622.html

Manscape tool in great condition: $10

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/hab/d/chicago-vidal-sassoon-battery-operated/7377353097.html

Police/Federal Agent test booklet: $5

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/bks/d/saint-charles-police-federal-agent-test/7377268218.html

 

Ticket Blitz Thursday – CHVRCHES – Official Rules

WKQX’s “Ticket Blitz Thursday” Contest
Official Rules

A complete copy of these rules can be obtained at the offices of radio station WKQX (“Station”), owned and operated by Cumulus Media Holdings Inc. or one of its subsidiary companies, 455 N. Cityfront Plaza Drive, Suite 1700, Chicago, IL 60611, during normal business hours Monday through Friday, Station website www.101wkqx.com,  or by sending a self-addressed, stamped envelope to the above address.

The Station will conduct the WKQX’s “Ticket Blitz Thursday” Contest (the “Contest”) substantially as described in these rules, and by participating, each participant agrees as follows:

  1. No purchase is necessary to enter or win. A purchase will not increase your chance of winning.   Void where prohibited.  All federal, state, and local regulations apply.

Eligibility.  This Contest is open only to legal U.S. residents, excluding dual Florida and New York residents, age eighteen (18) years  or older at the time of entry with a valid Social Security number and who reside in the Station’s Designated Market Area (“DMA”) as defined by Nielsen Audio, who have not won a prize from the Station in the last thirty (30) days or a prize valued at $500 or more in the last sixty (60) days, and whose immediate family members or household members have not won a prize from the Station in the last thirty (30) days or a prize valued at $500 or more in the last ninety (90) days. Void where prohibited by law.  Employees of Chicago FM Radio Assets, LLC, Station, each of their parent company, affiliates, related entities and subsidiaries, promotional sponsors, prize providers, advertising agencies, other radio stations serving the Station’s DMA, and the immediate family members and household members of all such employees are not eligible to participate. The term “immediate family members” includes spouses, parents and step-parents, siblings and step-siblings, and children and stepchildren.  The term “household members” refers to people who share the same residence at least three (3) months out of the year. The Contest is subject to all applicable federal, state and local laws and regulations. Participation constitutes entrant’s full and unconditional agreement to these Official Rules and Station’s decisions, which are final and binding in all matters related to the Contest. Winning a prize is contingent upon fulfilling all requirements set forth herein.

  1. Contest Period. The Contest will begin at 8:00am CT on Thursday, September 30, 2021 and will run through 6:00pm CT on Thursday, September 30, 2021 (the “Contest Period”).  The Station’s computer is the official time keeping device for this Contest.
  2. How to Enter. To enter:

(i) TextListen to the Station Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 8:30am, 9:30am, 10:30am, 11:30am, 12:30pm, 1:30pm, 2:30pm, 3:30pm, 4:30pm, and 5:30pm during the Contest Period.  When the Station announces the keyword and plays the “cue-to-text” sounder, TEXT the keyword to the Station at 312-101. Valid text entries received during the thirty (30) minute period after each cue-to-text sounder (as determined by the Station in its sole discretion) will be entered into the Grand Prize drawing. Time Delay Between Over-the-Air Analog Signal and Internet Broadcast: Due to the time delay that exists between the Station’s analog over-the-air signal and the Station’s online webcast, listeners who listen to the Station online may hear the cue to text later than listeners listening to the Station’s analog over-the-air signal. As a result, the odds of an online listener entering this Contest on-air may be diminished. Standard text messaging rates, as established by an individual’s wireless carrier, may apply, and Station assumes no responsibility for any fees or charges incurred for and associated with any text message sent to or from Station.  By entering the Contest using this method, you consent to receive a bounce back confirmation text. Any and all fees arising out of the transmission of a text message shall be the sole responsibility of the entrant.  Limit one (1) entry per person per phone number. Multiple participants are not permitted to share the same telephone number. Any attempt by any participant to submit more than one (1) entry by using multiple/different telephone phone numbers, identities, or any other methods will void that participant from further participation in the Contest.  By submission of a text message entry in this Contest, entrants hereby expressly consent to the receipt of a confirmatory bounce-back message related to this Contest.

(ii)  OnlineListen to the Station Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 8:30am, 9:30am, 10:30am, 11:30am, 12:30pm, 1:30pm, 2:30pm, 3:30pm, 4:30pm, and 5:30pm during the Contest Period. When the Station plays the “cue-to-text” sounder Visit the Station’s website at www.101wkqx.com and click on the “Contest” link, click on the “Ticket Blitz Thursday – CHVRCHES” Contest link, and complete an entry form, including submitting the keyword announced on-air by the station.  Valid entries received during the thirty (30) minute period after each cue-to-text sounder (as determined by the Station in its sole discretion) will be entered into the Grand Prize drawing.  Limit one (1) entry per person per email address, per keyword.  Multiple participants are not permitted to share the same email address. Any attempt by any participant to submit more than one (1) entry by using multiple/different email addresses, identities, registrations and logins, or any other methods will void that entry and the participant may be disqualified.  Use of any automated system to participate is prohibited and will result in disqualification. Station is not responsible for lost, late, incomplete, invalid, unintelligible, inappropriate or misdirected registrations, all of which will be disqualified.  In the event of a dispute as to any registration, the authorized account holder of the email address used to register will be deemed to be the participant. The “authorized account holder” is the natural person assigned the telephone number by the wireless carrier or an email address by an Internet access provider, online service provider or other organization responsible for assigning email addresses for the domain associated with the submitted address.  Potential winner may be required to show proof of being the authorized account holder. All entries become the sole and exclusive property of Station and will not be returned.  Station reserves the right to contact entrants and all other individuals whose email address is submitted as part of this promotion.  No mail-in entries will be accepted.

Winner Selection. On Thursday, September 30, 2021 after each hourly Contest Period closes, as outlined in Section 3, Station will select one (1) entry for the prize in a random drawing from among all valid entries of each hourly contest. The winning entrants will be contacted using the email address and/or telephone number provided with the entry and may be awarded the prize (subject to verification of eligibility and compliance with the terms of these rules). Station’s decisions as to the administration and operation of the Contest and the selection of the potential winner are final and binding in all matters related to the Contest. Failure to respond to the initial verification contact within three (3) days of notification will result in disqualification and forfeiture of the prize.

  1. Verification of Potential Winner. THE ELIGIBILITY OF ALL POTENTIAL CONTEST WINNERS IS SUBJECT TO VERIFICATION BY STATION WHOSE DECISIONS ARE FINAL AND BINDING IN ALL MATTERS RELATED TO THE CONTEST. The potential winner must continue to comply with all terms and conditions of these Official Rules, and winning is contingent upon fulfilling all requirements. The potential winner may be notified by email and/or telephone call after the date of random drawing and/or winner determination. The potential winner will be required to sign and return to Station, within three (3) days of the date notice is sent, an affidavit of eligibility and a liability/publicity release (except where prohibited) in order to claim his/her prize, if applicable.  A winner who returns the affidavit of eligibility and liability/publicity release will be deemed to have accepted the contest prize and thereafter will not be permitted to rescind their acceptance of the prize and/or return the prize. If a potential winner cannot be contacted, fails to sign and return the affidavit of eligibility and/or the liability/publicity release within the required time period (if applicable), or if the prize or prize notification is returned as undeliverable, potential winner forfeits prize. In the event that the potential winner of a prize is disqualified for any reason, Station may award the applicable prize to an alternate winner by random drawing from among all remaining eligible entries.    
  2. Prize. Ten (10) prizes will be awarded in this Contest (each the “Prize”). Each Prize consists of: two (2) tickets to CHVRCHES on Friday, November 19, 2021 at Byline Bank Aragon Ballroom, 1106 W. Lawrence Avenue, Chicago, IL 60640. ARV is ninety dollars ($90.00).  Winner is responsible for all taxes associated with prize receipt and/or use.  Odds of winning the Grand Prize depend on a number of factors including the number of eligible entries received during the Contest Period and listeners participating at any given time.

There is no substitution, transfer, or cash equivalent for prizes, except that the Station may, at its sole discretion and to the extent permitted by law, substitute prizes of comparable value or cash.  The prizes are expressly limited to the item(s) listed above and do not include taxes, gratuities or any other expenses.  Any tickets and/or gift certificates/cards awarded as part of a prize will be subject to the terms and conditions set forth by the issuer and are valid only on the date(s) printed on the tickets or gift certificates/cards.  Other restrictions may apply.

  1. Entry Conditions and Release. By entering, each participant agrees to: (a) comply with and be bound by these Official Rules and the decisions of the Station, which are binding and final in all matters relating to this Contest; (b) release and hold harmless Station, Cumulus Media Inc., and its subsidiaries, related and affiliated companies, participating sponsors, the prize suppliers and any other organizations responsible for sponsoring, fulfilling, administering, advertising or promoting the Contest, and each of their respective past and present officers, directors, employees, agents and representatives (collectively, the “Released Parties”) from and against any and all claims, expenses, and liability, including but not limited to negligence and damages of any kind to persons and property, including but not limited to invasion of privacy (under appropriation, intrusion, public disclosure of private facts, false light in the public eye or other legal theory), defamation, slander, libel, violation of right of publicity, infringement of trademark, copyright or other intellectual property rights, property damage, or death or personal injury arising out of or relating to a participant’s entry, creation of an entry or submission of an entry, participation in the Contest, acceptance or use or misuse of prize (including any travel or activity related thereto) and/or the broadcast, exploitation or use of entry; and (c) indemnify, defend and hold harmless the Released Parties from and against any and all claims, expenses, and liabilities (including reasonable attorneys’ fees) arising out of or relating to an entrant’s participation in the Contest and/or entrant’s acceptance, use, non-use or misuse of the prize.
  2. Except where prohibited, participation in the Contest constitutes winner’s consent to use by the Station and its agents of winner’s name, likeness, photograph, voice, opinions and/or biographical information (including hometown and state) for promotional purposes in any media, worldwide, without further payment or consideration, unless otherwise prohibited by law.
  3. All State, Local, Federal and/or other taxes, duties, tariffs, title fees, licensing fees, or other fees for prizes awarded become the sole responsibility of the winner.  All those who win a prize or prizes valued $600 or more in any given year will be issued an IRS Form 1099 to report their winnings.
  4. General Conditions. Station reserves the right to cancel, suspend and/or modify the Contest, or any part of it, if any fraud, technical failures or any other factor beyond Station’s reasonable control impairs the integrity or proper functioning of the Contest, as determined by Station in its sole discretion. Station reserves the right in its sole discretion to disqualify any individual it finds to be tampering with the entry process or the operation of the Contest or to be acting in violation of these Official Rules or acting in an unsportsmanlike or disruptive manner. Any attempt by any person to deliberately undermine the legitimate operation of the Contest may be a violation of criminal and civil law, and, should such an attempt be made, Station reserves the right to seek damages from any such person to the fullest extent permitted by law. Station’s failure to enforce any term of these Official Rules shall not constitute a waiver of that provision.
  5. Limitations of Liability. The Released Parties are not responsible for: (1) any incorrect or inaccurate information, whether caused by Station, entrants, printing errors or by any of the equipment or programming associated with or utilized in the Contest; (2) technical failures of any kind, including but not limited to malfunctions, interruptions, or disconnections in phone lines or network hardware or software; (3) unauthorized human intervention in any part of the entry process or the Contest; (4) technical or human error which may occur in the administration of the Contest or the processing of entries; or (5) any injury or damage to persons or property which may be caused, directly or indirectly, in whole or in part, from entrant’s participation in the Contest or receipt or use, non-use or misuse of any prize. No more than the stated number of prizes will be awarded. In event that a production, technical, programming or other error causes more than stated number of prizes as set forth in these Official Rules to be claimed, Station reserves the right to award only the stated number of prizes by a random drawing among all legitimate, unawarded, eligible prize claims.
  6. Entrant agrees that: (i) any and all disputes, claims and causes of action arising out of or connected with this Contest, or any prizes awarded, shall be resolved individually, without resort to any form of class action; (ii) any and all disputes, claims and causes of action arising out of or connected with this Contest, or any prizes awarded, shall be resolved exclusively by the United States District Court or the appropriate state court located in the Station’s listening area; (iii) any and all claims, judgments and awards shall be limited to actual out-of-pocket costs incurred, including costs associated with entering this Contest, but in no event attorneys’ fees; and (iv) under no circumstances will entrant be permitted to obtain awards for, and entrant hereby waives all rights to claim punitive, incidental and consequential damages and any other damages, other than for actual out-of-pocket expenses, and any and all rights to have damages multiplied or otherwise increased. SOME JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE LIMITATIONS OR EXCLUSION OF LIABILITY FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, SO THE ABOVE MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU. All issues and questions concerning the construction, validity, interpretation and enforceability of these Official Rules, or the rights and obligations of entrant and Station in connection with the Contest, shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with, the laws of the state in which the Station is located, without giving effect to any choice of law or conflict of law rules (whether of the state in which the Station is located or any other jurisdiction), which would cause the application of the laws of any jurisdiction other than the state in which the Station is located.
  7. Entrant’s Personal Information. Information collected from entrants is subject to Station’s Privacy Policy, which is available on the Station’s website under the “Privacy Policy” link. All entry blanks, forms, devices, and materials gathered during the course of entry, as well as all information contained therein, shall become the sole property of Station to be used, disposed of or destroyed in its sole discretion. Station is not responsible for any incorrect or inaccurate information entered by website users, and assumes no responsibility for any error, omission, interruption, deletion, defect, delay in operation or transmission, communications line failure, theft or destruction or unauthorized access to Station’s website.
  8. Contest Results. A winners list may be obtained within thirty (30) days after the Contest Period expires by sending a self-addressed stamped envelope to the Station identified below.

CONTEST SPONSOR:  Chicago FM Radio Assets, LLC, 455 N. Cityfront Plaza Drive, Suite 1700, Chicago, IL 60611.

PRIZE PROVIDER: Jam Productions, 207 W. Goethe Street, Chicago, IL 60610

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MGK and Connor McGregor almost fight at VMAs

The MTV Video Music Awards were held over the weekend, between an endless stream of Ridiculousness.  21 Pilots were there, Foo Fighters were there, and a basically naked Megan Fox accompanied MGK down the red carpet.  Unfortunately for them, Connor McGregor was also there, and after being shunned on a photo op with the couple (or maybe he just mistook MGK for Jake Paul?), he decided to throw a drink at MGK and nearly start a fight, which really wouldve given MTV its first relevant moment in quite a long time (which kind of makes me think this was planned).  Check out the video below, it was quite a frackus!

 

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Tyler Jospeh makes a huge announcement at the VMA’s

twenty-one pilots frontman Tyler Joseph turned heads at MTV’s Video Music Awards last night when he made a huge announcement in the middle of their performance.

Congratulations, Tyler!

Planes still have ashtrays…?

Yes, people USED TO be able to smoke on flights. Why bother having a smoking section then right? The whole plane is a smoking section when one person lights up. But I digress, smoking is now a big ‘no, no’ on flights, but then why are there still ashtrays? They legally can’t not have them! What? This flight attendant explains why… watch and learn!

@flyingkayleeLet me know in the comments what your guess is! ##flightattendant ##aviation ##boeing737 ##airplane ##avgeek♬ Quirky – Oleg Kirilkov

 

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Women are so smart, they’ll match with you, then force you to do ‘stuff’

The female species knows exactly what they’re doing. This girl made a video of how she matched with someone on Tinder, then invited him over… then BOOM- before he knows what hit him he’s putting together IKEA furniture. And really this could be for anything guys, fixing a leaky faucet, cleaning the kitty litter. Women NEED you, but necessarily for the fun stuff. Let this video be a warning to you. Don’t be a SIMP!

 

Also, read this letter sent to Brian, Ali, and Justin as proof!

Ahoy Brian, Ali and Justin please don’t use my name but I’ve been doing something similar to what you guys are talking about. My boyfriend moved in with me a year ago and started paying all the rent and all the bills. What he doesn’t know is my dad bought me this condo and that he’s been paying me this entire time. Last year I made $28,000 of him. I learned this trick and so many other from my friends, girls gotta stick together!

 

 

 

A nipple was found in a McDonald’s meal!

Across the pond, a British man found a little something extra in his “bacon roll”, which is a meal that we’re desperate to have imported now. He found a pig’s nipple in his meal, a disgusting so revolting, he said, that he is now going vegan. Personally, we’re not sure what the big difference is between pig and a pig’s nipple.

The fast food empire fired back, noting, “We use back bacon in all of our bacon rolls and due to the location that this cut is taken from, we are confident this customer is mistaken in his claim. We understand the customer is liaising with our Customer Services Team who are offering further assistance.”

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Bad Neighbors

It’s hard to find love in the big city, but this person is convinced that they’ve found The One. The problem now is that they need help literally finding The One! Is this truly a bad neighbor or is this person just too desperate?

Please, Chicagoland, do your thing and help this person find the love of their life!

A woman on Tinder wrote up a 17-page relationship contract, find out what was in it!

We’ve all had our hearts broken, but 21-year-old Annie Wright was determined to be in a solid relationship this time around. Her contract, that was 17 pages, was something that her now boyfriend, Michael, 23, signed right away. It came with four categories: honesty, communication, partner’s needs, and clarity and alignment with their life plans.

Other things that she outlined in their contract:

  • no silent treatment
  • pay for date nights
  • don’t isolate her from loved ones
  • workout at least five times a week (because we all do this, right?)
  • and each give a romantic gesture at least once every two weeks.

Yes, we can poke, and make fun of this couple, especially because this guy signed it after only two weeks. BUT, oddly enough, it’s been about a year since he signed it, and they’re still together. I’m drafting my contract now!

Was it raining poop water on fans in Washington? Watch for yourself!

Fans in the upper deck of Fedex Field were treated to a shower on Sunday during the game. Apparently a sewage pipe broke and rained down on Washington fans, as if being a Washington fan wasn’t hard enough.

 

 

Roadtrip! Here’s the Chicagoland 2021 winners of the Great American Beer Festival

As the weather cools across Chicago, it’s the perfect time to become a beer tourist.  And what better way to roadtrip then by hitting up all the local award winning breweries that just scored in the 2021 Great American Beer Festival, which just went down in Denver.

Check out the list below.  Plan your trips.  And grab me a growler and/or four pack 😉  — [eric]

Medal Beer Name Location Category
SILVER Low Country Belgo-American Pale Ale Tribes Beer Co. Mokena American-Belgo-Style Ale
BRONZE Midwest Royalty Alarmist Brewing Chicago American-Style Lager
BRONZE Matilda Goose Island Beer Co. Chicago Brett Beer
SILVER Vocal Jam Short Fuse Brewing Co. Schiller Park Experimental Beer
GOLD Bamm Bamm Loves Pebbles Will County Brewing Co. Shorewood Fruit Wheat Beer
BRONZE Sunkissed Blonde Tangled RootsBrewery Brewing Co. Ottawa Fruit Wheat Beer
SILVER Tropical Fruit Locker Short Fuse Brewing Co. Schiller Park Fruited American Sour Ale
SILVER ALT 140 Sew Hop’d Brewery Huntley German-Style Altbier
SILVER Della Old Irving Brewing Co. Chicago German-Style Kolsch
BRONZE Too Much Cologne Crystal Lake Brewing Crystal Lake German-Style Kolsch
BRONZE Party Penguin Pollyanna Brewing Co. Lemont Other Strong Beer
SILVER Dark And Down Mickey Finn’s Brewery Libertyville Rye Beer
GOLD Roselle Red Pollyanna Brewing Co. Roselle Vienna-Style Lager

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9.12.2021 History Of Alternative

Hour 1

  • NOFX -Linoleum
  • Weezer – Beverly Hills
  • Pearl Jam – Daughter
  • Tome Tom Club – Genius Of Love
  • The Strokes – Last Nite
  • Edwyn Collins – A Girl Like You
  • The Cure – Love Song
  • Alkaline Trio – Mercy Me
  • Garbage – Only Happy When It Rains
  • Psychedelic Furs – Heaven
  • Cake – Never There
  • Arcade Fire – Rebellion (Lies)
  • Stone Temple Pilots – Interstate Love Song

Hour 2

  • Flesh For Lulu – Postcards From Paradise
  • Smashing Pumpkins – Today
  • Foo Fighters – Times Like These
  • Suzanne Vega – Left Of Center
  • Jane’s Addiction – Been Caught Stealing
  • Aztec Camera – Oblivious
  • Nirvana – Heart-Shaped Box
  • Taking Back Sunday – MakeDamnSure
  • Depeche Mode – Strangelove
  • Our Lady Peace – Clumsy
  • Blink 182 – What’s My Age Again?
  • Tegan And Sara – Speak Slow
  • The Clash – Train In Vain
  • Dinosaur Jr. – Start Choppin’


Hour 3

  • The Dirty Heads feat. Rome – Lay Me Down
  • The Offspring – Gotta Get Away
  • Faith No More – Epic
  • The Pixies – Debaser
  • Jimmy Eat World – Sweetness
  • The Breeders – Divine Hammer
  • R.E.M. – Fall On Me
  • Rancid – Fall Back Down
  • Red Hot Chili Peppers – Aeroplane
  • New Order – Age Of Consent
  • Blur – Song 2
  • Siouxsie And The Banshees – Kiss Them For Me
  • Rise Against – Swing Life Away

Hour 4

  • Morrissey – Tomorrow
  • Talking Heads – Life During Wartime
  • Green Day – Nice Guys Finish Last
  • Violent Femmes – Blister In The Sun
  • No Doubt – Just A Girl
  • Muse – Hysteria
  • The Church – Under The Milky Way
  • Mighty Mighty Bosstones – Someday I Suppose
  • Beck – The New Pollution
  • The Pretenders – Message Of Love
  • Soundgarden – Fell On Black Days
  • Dropkick Murphys – I’m Shipping Up To Boston

Hang on to those sauce packets! Taco Bell wants to recycle them, free

Is there anything better than a late-night drowning of soft tacos in a Taco Bell sauce of your choosing?

Actually, yes.  Something green.

The fast food colossus estimates that 8.7 million of these foil packets end up in landfills.  That’s….bad.  So, they are teaming up with TerraCycle on a free recycling program —- they collect traditionally non-recyclable items, clean them, then melt and remold them into hard plastic that can be used to make other stuff.

Since the majority of Taco Bell transactions currently take place at the drive-thru and fans eat their meal out-of-restaurant, U.S. customers can mail-in their packets via four simple steps:

  1. Sign up for a TerraCycle account.
  2. Collect empty sauce packets within a cardboard box or any other recyclable container you already have on hand.
  3. Once your collection box is full, log into your TerraCycle account to download and print a free shipping label.
  4. Ship your box via UPS.

Step 5?  Bring back the Mexican Pizza.  It’s been long enough!  — [eric]

 

Someone estimated the total medical bills for the “Jackass” crew. It’s….A LOT.

Two decades we’ve been watching Johnny Knoxville and crew do dumb stuff.  And someone has done something equally as dumb — they estimated the cost of medical bills for the crew of Jackass.

$24 million.

Nova Legal Funding studied all the injuries sustained over the year — everything from broken bones to an alligator bite — and came up with the tally, as reported more in depth by Consequence.  If we were to add in all stunt performers and unreported/unseen injuries, the group estimates that total reaches $38 million.

Knoxville is the clubhouse leader for highest estimated medical bill, as the brain hemorrhage he suffered filming Jackass 4 is thought to be in the neighborhood of $2.5 million.  Ouch.